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governor romney is a clear underdog right now, so why won't the liberal media call him just that? an underdog. could it be because voters love an underdog? we'll take a look at histories november surprises. the prints presses running over time. wall street loves it. the economy, apparently, needs it, and with the easy money, we couldn't poly did over the cliff, could we? wall street legends say, oh, yes, we would. lou: stock market closing out a terrific third quarter as ben bernanke's easy money policies make investors feel good. we take that up with lou, neant money line, stocks finishing lower on the day, but posting the third best quarter since 2010. the dow jones industrial's dropping 49 points. s&p is down six and a half, and nasdaq down 20, but still well off the lows of the day. dragging the market today, consumer spending, up just half a percent, increase because of higher gasoline prices. oversea, bank of spain releasing an audit showing seven of the countries failed stress tests despite anxiety about the eurozone. the big three indexes up 44% for the quarter. a federal
governor romney is a clear underdog right now, so why won't the liberal media call him just that? an underdog. could it be because voters love an underdog? we'll take a look at histories november surprises. the prints presses running over time. wall street loves it. the economy, apparently, needs it, and with the easy money, we couldn't poly did over the cliff, could we? wall street legends say, oh, yes, we would. lou: stock market closing out a terrific third quarter as ben bernanke's easy...
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staffs try to make sure the right number of people show up. hillary clinton's presidential campaign was run by patty solis-doyle. >> you make calls to campaign supporters, make robocalls. >> they eventies advertise in the sky. >> ready for the message, then n mittromney.com/ticket. >> the football stadium seats about 80,000 people. only problem, romney had 8,000 in the crowd. >> it's ritter's job to make that doesn't happen. >> six really talented advance people on the ground for five days. >> we're painting part of the backdrop that you see from the riser. finish that late in the night. >> campaigns obsess about every sign, every camera angle. >> you have to see the campaigns through the lens of a camera. if you can't do that, it gets left on field. >> we'll take cameras in there, set them up on our risers that we set for the press, look at it, make sure the angles are right. >> behind that group of people is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the television cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because
staffs try to make sure the right number of people show up. hillary clinton's presidential campaign was run by patty solis-doyle. >> you make calls to campaign supporters, make robocalls. >> they eventies advertise in the sky. >> ready for the message, then n mittromney.com/ticket. >> the football stadium seats about 80,000 people. only problem, romney had 8,000 in the crowd. >> it's ritter's job to make that doesn't happen. >> six really talented advance...
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so does mitt romney's strategy of saying one thing and then right afterward have his campaign walk it back actually work? alan schroeder is a professor at northeastern university, the author of presidential debates 50 years of high-risk tv. professor, glad to welcome you back into "the war room." is team romney's little two-step with the truth effective? >> you know, unfortunately, i think that strategy is sort of effective and here's the analogy i would use. it's like the newspaper article that gets something wrong. everybody reads the story and gets the mistake in version of what happened but the correction that comes out the next day is on page 35 in a little box and nobody sees it. and so that's what happens here. it really has to get corrected during the debate and that was the job of course of barack obama and for whatever reason, he didn't do it. >> jennifer: let it go means that you end up missing the opportunity to set the record straight in front of 50 million people. we talked about this last night. -- last time, whether it is a better strategy to spend your time rebutting
so does mitt romney's strategy of saying one thing and then right afterward have his campaign walk it back actually work? alan schroeder is a professor at northeastern university, the author of presidential debates 50 years of high-risk tv. professor, glad to welcome you back into "the war room." is team romney's little two-step with the truth effective? >> you know, unfortunately, i think that strategy is sort of effective and here's the analogy i would use. it's like the...
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romney made these assertions and obama never challenged them at all. >> right. romney tried to recast that whole taxation argument by arguing yes i agree that i cut the taxes on the highest earners but i don't reduce the overall share of tax burden. now that is from obama's perspective, certainly a dubious assertion at best and yet there was no real underlying or emphasizing of the fact that obama blatantly -- >> bill: here's the question. let's end with this one. do you think it changes last night's -- last night's debate changed the course of this campaign? >> i think that it puts governor romney in a much more competitive position. i'm not sure it will be a determinative of the election but it revitalizes republican hopes. i would expect to see some closing in the polls where romney has been lagging. it changes in that respect. >> bill: they got a new burst of energy. niall is a staff writer at the hill newspaper. you can follow him at the the hill.com. thanks niall. >> thank you. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." you've heard bill's views, now let
romney made these assertions and obama never challenged them at all. >> right. romney tried to recast that whole taxation argument by arguing yes i agree that i cut the taxes on the highest earners but i don't reduce the overall share of tax burden. now that is from obama's perspective, certainly a dubious assertion at best and yet there was no real underlying or emphasizing of the fact that obama blatantly -- >> bill: here's the question. let's end with this one. do you think it...
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they think obama has a bedder idea than romney right now, and they like obama more than they like romney. it's about an 8% difference. >> that is something we will watch tonight, and you saw the governor's optimistic take there for the president. governor romney needs to change that. >> is it true that those who are still undecided normally break for the challenger because they don't know the challenger as well as opposed to the incumbent. everybody knows the president of the united states. the undecided at this late moment might break for romney? >> yes, that is a possibility. we might have the first election since just a few elections ago that the popular vote goes to the person that loses. these targeted battleground states looks like obama will carry the day, but he may not win the popular vote. >> that would be this election you're talking about. >> this one, 48-48. >> you know how that one turned out. we had to wait awhile. >> let us hope the supreme court does not decide this election. >> guys, thanks very much. it's not just the words that often matter on debate night, body langu
they think obama has a bedder idea than romney right now, and they like obama more than they like romney. it's about an 8% difference. >> that is something we will watch tonight, and you saw the governor's optimistic take there for the president. governor romney needs to change that. >> is it true that those who are still undecided normally break for the challenger because they don't know the challenger as well as opposed to the incumbent. everybody knows the president of the united...
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what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set this up first for mike barnicle. we've all been saying the same thing. phone calls coming in last night from my democratic friends, independent friends, republicans, everybody's been asking the same thing, where did this come from? we've never seen this mitt romney before, but you say you have. >> yes, this is how mitt romney became governor of massachusetts in 2002 during a series of debates. he was exactly this way as he was last night. he came in prepared. he had a plan. he executed it. he was armed with specific information. he went right at the opponent. then it was shannon o'brien running for governor against
what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set...
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there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from spending? first of all, i will eliminate all programs by this test. if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it's worth boring money from china to pay for it? obama care is on my list. i apologize mr. president. jim, i'm sorry, i had stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird, like you too. but i won't keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for. i'll take programs that are currently good programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to state. and make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine age
there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from...
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so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so
so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >>...
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so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i
so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >>...
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. >> that's right, erin. there are a lot of republicans and democrats who are very closely watching what these outside groups -- and it's not just the super pacs we have the money for and the finances. but also these 5014 c nonprofit groups raising a ton more money, the karl rove gps, the koch brothers, americans for prosperity. and there is a feeling that if mitt romney starts to look like he can't win, that they will pull the plug on him, and start diverting the money that they otherwise would have spent on his campaign, on congressional campaigns, and that really underscores the difference between these sort of post citizens united elections where the power and the determination of viability is really being made by these outside groups versus before where you had the parties being able to decide, hey, we think this candidate has a chance. and in 1996, for instance, we saw the parties decide that bob dole wasn't going to beat president clinton. so it diverted the money from dole to the congressional candida
. >> that's right, erin. there are a lot of republicans and democrats who are very closely watching what these outside groups -- and it's not just the super pacs we have the money for and the finances. but also these 5014 c nonprofit groups raising a ton more money, the karl rove gps, the koch brothers, americans for prosperity. and there is a feeling that if mitt romney starts to look like he can't win, that they will pull the plug on him, and start diverting the money that they...
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for the one percent not of for the people and with mitt romney resurrecting robert bork a man who was so extremist in one thousand nine hundred seven that the senate rejected him a man who opposes roe v wade who doesn't believe equal protection clause applies to women who has tried to suppress voting rights didn't support the civil rights act of one thousand nine hundred sixty four and believes corporations are people you will see a far more extremist court that i think will damage ordinary people who are trying to organize who are trying to get access to the courts for class action suits and of course will unleash even more polluted money into an already polluted political system just a few months before richard nixon put him on the u.s. supreme court list whole infamously or famously wrote a memo to his neighbor and close friend the president the chairman of the u.s. chamber of commerce. big. sickly the conservative takeover of america and a big piece of that was taking over the courts we're seeing increasingly court elections judicial elections in the united states in many cases th
for the one percent not of for the people and with mitt romney resurrecting robert bork a man who was so extremist in one thousand nine hundred seven that the senate rejected him a man who opposes roe v wade who doesn't believe equal protection clause applies to women who has tried to suppress voting rights didn't support the civil rights act of one thousand nine hundred sixty four and believes corporations are people you will see a far more extremist court that i think will damage ordinary...
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being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and his advertising and force him to do it and it was a lot of people who don't like those kinds of attacks, the president's going to have problems this. vice-presidential debate, i am telling you, ryan will not make this about medicare, but go after joe biden and president obama about foreign policy and libya and put them on the defensive, that's a good move. >> sean: and the economy. he has to go after the economy -- [overlapping dialogue] >> the economy, too-- >>> plus i. the key issue that wasn't discuss in the debate were g
being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and...
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it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that the revenue-neutral concept is pretty much just nomenclature they are suggesting that as the tax base grows, in the future we'll recover revenues and therefore the tax cut will be paid for. well that sounds an awful lot like the bush recession, where they fought two wars that weren't on line, they gave tax cuts to the primarily upper levels, and didn't have a funding mechanism and then wonder idea we as a economy crashed. it was the same order of thinking. give the tax cut but don't worry about paying for it. that sounds like recent history repeated. >> stephanie: right. >> i just think we're going into the danger zone. >> stephanie: obviously facts and numbers supporting the president, including the unemployment rate falling to 7.8%. that's huge news, isn't it? >> i think it's great news. knowing that 7.8% is the lowest it
it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that the revenue-neutral concept is pretty much just nomenclature they are suggesting that as the tax base grows, in the future we'll recover revenues and therefore the tax cut will be paid for. well that sounds an awful lot like the bush recession, where they fought two wars...
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and when will this miserable chapter in american history finally be finished also we all know mitt romney would have no foreign policy of it in the head and now fox news is trying to make president obama look like a foreign policy quack too is this the right's plan the heading into november and their so-called october surprise for american voters and from paper and pens to computers and desk chairs staples business model as all of your office needs covered unfortunately staples business model has the destruction of the american economy covered to tell you why and i still eat it. most of the rest of the news this week the two thousand and three u.s. soldier was killed in afghanistan this is the nation's longest running war and it's also the forgotten war the two thousand death of an american soldier didn't get near the attention it deserves in our corporate media nor did how many afghan civilians have been killed in this war the u.n. estimates that more than thirteen thousand innocent afghan civilians have died so far although the u.n. only started keeping track in two thousand and seven s
and when will this miserable chapter in american history finally be finished also we all know mitt romney would have no foreign policy of it in the head and now fox news is trying to make president obama look like a foreign policy quack too is this the right's plan the heading into november and their so-called october surprise for american voters and from paper and pens to computers and desk chairs staples business model as all of your office needs covered unfortunately staples business model...
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there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. the biggest challenges facing the country are on the line as well as the outcome of this election. even the candidates' wives are feeling the stress. we have cnn exclusives tonight. brand new interviews with michelle obama and ann romney. the first lady shared her debate anxiety with our jessica yellin. >> i get so nervous at these debates and you know, i'm like one of those parents watching their kid on the balance beam. just standing there just trying not to, you know, have any expression at all. >> ann romney revealed to our gloria borger that she helped reassure her husband during past debates. >> and almost after every answer that he gives, he'll find me in the audience to see, was that good? was that okay? >> we're going to have much more on those interviews with michelle and ann as we count down to the debate. we're mobilizing the full resources of cnn for our coverage tonight. let's bring in and erson cooper. >> it's going to be an exciting night and during the debate, we are
there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. the biggest challenges facing the country are on the line as well as the outcome of this election. even the candidates' wives are feeling the stress. we have cnn exclusives tonight. brand new interviews with michelle obama and ann romney. the first lady shared her debate anxiety with our jessica yellin. >> i get so nervous at these debates and you know, i'm like one of those parents watching their kid on the...
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i think you're right, certainly i think that plitt romney will be very claesed with the night. you look at the twitter verse, some democrats think the president seemed a little listless here. certainly when you think about it, mitt romney needed to come in here and make an impression. we'll see in the days ahead whether he did. but certainly i can assure you in the spin room right now, republicans are making the case that he did, in fact, make that impression. anderson. >> no doubt about that. reaction already pouring in. and we'll be taking the temperature of a lot of different groups over the next hour and a half. we have our analyst and reporters and cnn contributors. a quick reading right now. john king, david gergen. >> look at e-mails, conversations during the debate. twitterverse, republicans very happy, including the top team around mitt romney. liberals complaining about the president's performance. without a doubt, participating in republican primary debates helped mitt romney, the president was rusty. hasn't done this in four years. that's not an excuse as james said
i think you're right, certainly i think that plitt romney will be very claesed with the night. you look at the twitter verse, some democrats think the president seemed a little listless here. certainly when you think about it, mitt romney needed to come in here and make an impression. we'll see in the days ahead whether he did. but certainly i can assure you in the spin room right now, republicans are making the case that he did, in fact, make that impression. anderson. >> no doubt about...
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there's so many comparisons made between romney and reagan right now, i'm just curious, does romney have to be the second coming of ronald reagan in these debates to win? >> no. i don't think he has to be the second coming of ronald reagan. he has to be mitt romney. but the thing he has to do is what ronald reagan did. ronald reagan in the 1980 debates pinned the economy on jimmy carter, and he kept litigating the case that jimmy carter had made every american's life worse. because of his failed economic policies. governor romney has to do exactly the same thing. he has to make the debate about the president's failed policies on the economy and convince voters that it was those policies that's made their lives a lot worse over these last four years rather than let the president blame earthquakes or the, you know, president bush or the tsunami or anything. jenna: i have some questions about style versus substance, big questions about likability. we're going to take a quick commercial break and be right back with you for some more tips on debating, right after this. h. but things are start
there's so many comparisons made between romney and reagan right now, i'm just curious, does romney have to be the second coming of ronald reagan in these debates to win? >> no. i don't think he has to be the second coming of ronald reagan. he has to be mitt romney. but the thing he has to do is what ronald reagan did. ronald reagan in the 1980 debates pinned the economy on jimmy carter, and he kept litigating the case that jimmy carter had made every american's life worse. because of his...
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(applause) >> romney's right. you guys are like the 47% who are depending on the government to deport people. is that why you like obama because obama has supported a ton of you people. -- deport add ton of you people. >> well, president barack obama has deported more immigrants than any president in the history of the united states. >> stephen: so you get a free ride to the border. (laughter) >> what i would say is immigrants contribute much more to this country than what people might think. undocumented immigrants pay taxes and do the jobs-- >> they are criminals, they're illegals. they broke the law. you know the law? they broke the law. if you break the law you're a criminal, jorge. >> at the same time there are millions of americans who benefit from their work and thousands of american companies who hire them. and we don't call them illegal so we have to talk about co-responsibility. they are here because we benefit from the work. (applause) >> stephen: i don't have a comeback for that so they'll edit it out
(applause) >> romney's right. you guys are like the 47% who are depending on the government to deport people. is that why you like obama because obama has supported a ton of you people. -- deport add ton of you people. >> well, president barack obama has deported more immigrants than any president in the history of the united states. >> stephen: so you get a free ride to the border. (laughter) >> what i would say is immigrants contribute much more to this country than...
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there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of colorado for your hospitality. 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to a marry me. so i just want to wish sweety you happy anniversary, and let you know a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [ laughter ] >> obama: four years ago we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system has frozen up and because of the resilience and determination of the american people we have beg
there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i...
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so i believe that governor romney was absolutely right on when he said that he invested too much capital in obamacare, which was his personal objective. you will recall, martha, that the person people when they were polled they didn't want that version of obamacare, they didn't want that version but he passed it anyway rather than focus on how you really create jobs. so i believe that governor romney nailed him on that. martha: we're talking to you about jobs here. here is another piece of sound last night that has to do a little bit with the way that money has been spent on the new energy spropbt. let' front. let's watch. >> don't forget you put $90 billion, like 50 years worth of breaks into solar and wind, to lind to solyndra, and tekskla. i had a friend that said you don't just pick the winners, you pick the losers. martha: that got a laugh from the reaction. it goes to the heart of the question as to whether the government should be attempting to pick winners and losers in new technology. >> and they should not. this is a perfect example of how governor romney was so prepared, that
so i believe that governor romney was absolutely right on when he said that he invested too much capital in obamacare, which was his personal objective. you will recall, martha, that the person people when they were polled they didn't want that version of obamacare, they didn't want that version but he passed it anyway rather than focus on how you really create jobs. so i believe that governor romney nailed him on that. martha: we're talking to you about jobs here. here is another piece of...
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he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research or technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insurance companies. we can't afford to double down on the same topdown economic policies that got us into this mess. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthened middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. and we're not going to do it. we have been there. we have tried th
he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round...
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>> he is right. point of early advertising against romney was make him unacceptable alternative to romney. if you think it is tough now, if you hired this guy it would be full disaster. romney made himself acceptable to swing voters. polls suggest he did. my personal favorite excuse for the president's performance comes from a whole bunch of his defenders claim the moderator, jim lehrer are of pbs was basically too right-wing and acting in concert with the romney campaign somehow, which is denial to a level that is truly amusing. bill: if that is the one observation you have i'm curious to know how you observe this. this is al gore talking about the altitude in colorado, specifically the city of denver. roll this. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that is interesting. >> i don't know, maybe --. bill: did you hear that vo
>> he is right. point of early advertising against romney was make him unacceptable alternative to romney. if you think it is tough now, if you hired this guy it would be full disaster. romney made himself acceptable to swing voters. polls suggest he did. my personal favorite excuse for the president's performance comes from a whole bunch of his defenders claim the moderator, jim lehrer are of pbs was basically too right-wing and acting in concert with the romney campaign somehow, which...
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it's interesting that they would call that the smirk because romney -- gerri: right there. >> yes, romney's the one famous for the smirk. it's like they are trying to turn the tails saying, look what obama did now. he does smirk, but his smirk is a tightening of the mouth, his way of saying i don't agree with you, and roleny keeps that smirk on the face all the time. both need to work on the neutral expression. that means what do i look like when the other person is speaking so i don't look frustrated or angry. gerri: what are you supposed to do? >> a natural expression, rather than the jaw tensioned up, just have a neutral expression like you are listening. gerri: i like the blink rates. >> typically, what happens when we are anxious, fight or flight kicks in, we blink, get emotionally aroused if you will. the regular rate is anywhere from 17-20 blinks per minute. on tv, upwards of the 40-50 times. once we feel pressure, it goes up in in the debates, obama blinked more than romney did in this situation, but that's the first debate. romney blinks less overall. gerri: yes. i've seen numbers
it's interesting that they would call that the smirk because romney -- gerri: right there. >> yes, romney's the one famous for the smirk. it's like they are trying to turn the tails saying, look what obama did now. he does smirk, but his smirk is a tightening of the mouth, his way of saying i don't agree with you, and roleny keeps that smirk on the face all the time. both need to work on the neutral expression. that means what do i look like when the other person is speaking so i don't...